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Major upheaval on DeviantArt!
Published on July 29, 2005 By CerebroJD In WinCustomize News
There is much speculation as to exactly what has occurred at DeviantArt in the last day or two.

No one seems to be able to talk about it very much, but its clear that there has been a shift in who exactly runs what on DeviantArt. Jark, the co-founder of DA, appears to have been demoted and/or fired from that position. There are many indications of this, the foremost being his member symbol prefix, no longer the $ of the past. Could this be happening to such a honest and driven individual? Jark has given so much to the community of both DeviantArt and many other art communities around the internet.

Several critical policies on DeviantArt were broken in this restructure, including the near-sacred rule of never removing comments. This freedom of speach and action formed one of the core foundations of DeviantArt: The ability to speak up in all situations and have your opinions heard. Deviations were removed, comments edited, and people banned in order to keep something quiet. No rock-solid details are available, but Jark himself seems supportive of the measures taken by fans to lend their shoulders to his cause.

Updating as info and sources are found.

Onestar's DeviantArt page. Onestar proposes a one-day hiatus on the uploading of all files to DA.

Jark's DeviantArt page. Some interesting reading here, but not much detail. Check his deviations.

Deviation/article by leliathomas. Speculation and theories and many facts pertaining to the event.

Jark's other page, off of DeviantArt. Snoop around... some VERY interesting stuff there.

Bookdiva's personal crusade! She's adding everyone who supports Jark to a massive list in her DA Journal.

Important! Actual semi-official statement from higher-ups. Jark responds too! (Caution, huge image file)



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on Jul 29, 2005
Not good bye. More like "see you later". You can't keep a good alien down.
on Jul 29, 2005
I'm sure he'll come back better than ever, but I am suddenly rethinking my membership of that "community" as it is now.
on Jul 29, 2005
from his page
# Status: Former Staff Member
# Deviations: 189
# Scraps: 15
# Deviation Comments: 9,526
# Deviant Comments: 2,789
# Deviant Comments Received: 10,931
# News Comments: 1,911
# Forum Posts: 5,532
# Journal Entries: 475
# Shouts: 1,145
# Favourites: 770
on Jul 30, 2005

Scott's currently rubbing his chin in wonderment.....

It is clear that those who 'know' the truth and agenda are saying nothing, and from what I've gathered so far Scott's equally in the dark.

With all the current info available I'd say someone really made a mistake 'removing' Jark.

Sure, no individual is bigger than his community...but with DeviantArt.com 'his' is the important part of that statement.  He created it....nurtured its direction, but like with any 'child' it is likely to grow too big for its own boots and usurp its head.

I thought a few years ago that Devart was getting too 'big' and losing 'soul'.....looks like I was right....particularly with 'newbie' admins there saying they have as much 'heart' for Devart as Jark...afterall they'd been there for 2 years [DA is 5].

Whatever transpires.... Scott's importance/relevance to the online skinning and graphical art community remains eternal.

....AND he's a good bloke, too....

on Jul 30, 2005
This is all so weird, so sketchy. Something is obviously going on, and I certainly hope that it's some sort of misunderstanding or something. However, I do think that before we go ranting about this and that and why we'll miss Jark and who will miss him the most, we first need to acknowledge what it is that has caused him to be "removed."

Also--and, please, take no offense by this, as I mean absolutely none--onestar's mission seems sort of...pointless. If you want to argue with that because I'm not doing anything while onestar's at least trying to do something, go ahead, it doesn't matter. I'm just trying to say that it isn't going to solve anything. It's not something that hurts DA nor her administration in any way. Mass e-mail, mail, mass ridiculous uploading, even, some sort of boycott--I don't know! I agree with onestar's point, to a degree. I think that DA is still and will continue to be about the community. Internal DA problems shouldn't be allowed to hinder that.


A few final notes:
First of all, I'm not exactly certain of what onestar is trying to accomplish, so perhaps all of what I said is just rubbish. Secondly, the truth needs to come out first. Don't be so unreasonable and rash before you even know what you're dealing with.
on Jul 30, 2005
I have said it before ... any community needs its 'elders'.  They are the heart and soul and memory of the place (and they are an essential seed of the future) and to lose one changes things badly.
on Jul 30, 2005

Does anybody know what's actually happening over there?

I noticed the search feature is disabled.

GM - I agree.

on Jul 30, 2005
I don't like the entire idea of this "removing comments", "heavy editing", et al.....the complete change of policies over there seems ominous!!! I agree with xxZeroVirusxx about not making snap decisions, but ALL of this REALLY doesn't sound good regardless - BAD DEALINGS no matter how you put it!!!
on Jul 30, 2005
I just don't like the hush-hush atmosphere. After seeing this article, I followed the links for over an hour and didn't get anywhere as to what is actually going on.

But, as long as folks are speculating, my journal has some links I found contrasting. Link
on Jul 30, 2005
I've been in retail since 1989, since then I've grown to love some of my jobs, as well the people that worked with me. I held high respect for one manager in particular, as he was a great role model and a fabulous leader. He was honest, supportive and expected nothing out of you that he himself wouldn't do first. Of all of these managers, from many different companies, that one mentioned was the ONLY one to ever hold my respect. None the less, he was moved to a different location leaving behind a store that he had built up sales in and as well the level of customer service needed to achieve such success. Losing him to another store did kinda make us sad, as we all enjoyed working with him. Regardless though, we moved on, continued to pick up where we left off. Life does not give you much of a choice.

Reason I bring all that up, what happened to Jark is far different as he was treated rather unfairly from all that I've read. I fear no one other than those directly involved can answer exactly what happened. Even if they did, it sounds questionable as to who we could honestly believe. Still, I find myself thinking of all the ones that I've seen treated with similar actions in the different business encounters I've been a part of and sadly this kind of thing happens all too often.

Jark, if you're reading this? Please know that even though I personally do not know you, I do know of you by way of many of artist that frequent DA. Through them I've gotten a very strong impression of your character, as well from what I've personally read myself in the past. You're a good person, don't let this stop you from doing what you do best. There's always room for another DA. Those that respect you and believe in you the most will come. Keep up the good work!
on Jul 30, 2005
I was going to post something similar, but I was waiting for some official announcement. Surely one does not kick out ones creator just like that?
on Jul 30, 2005
For anyone wondering who jark is, and why something 'over there' is of import/relevance 'over here'... jark is the co-founder of the biggest and most successful online art community called Deviantart.com ..... and over here, where we have about one and a quarter million registered 'users'...jark's ID is '28'....
on Jul 30, 2005
waiting for some official announcement


I fear there will be close to nothing.
on Jul 30, 2005
I was checking `splat's journal at http://splat.deviantart.com/journal/6066915/ and clicked on the link named "DELETING COMMENTS IS HYPOCRISY" http://www.t52.org/.

What I found is quite disturbing. The page features a mail from one of the co-founders of deviantART; °matteo. According to the mail one of the other co-founders of deviantART, $spyed (Angelo), had over a longer time gained power until he could kick °jark (Scott) out of the company to gain even more power. I don't know who was the reciever of the mail or even if it's true but if it is it would explain all the secrecy and the unwillingness among the staff to bring light to this.
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